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A Compassionate Plea for the White Water Paddler
Simon R.:
What rules and regulations apply here?
What insurance point of view from the college applies? where does it say the committee are responsible if something happens?
where does it say the college has any say in how the club operates in terms of its lending policy?
These are things people always throw out there when this issue comes up and i'm yet to see any document that supports them. If it is the case that it is explicitly said some then thats fine. But i don't see the point in hiding behind this stuff to avoid tackling this issue. What'd be the problem of lending club gear for a grade 4 river it'd have the same conditions attached to it thats on the grade 3s "you break it you buy it". People already commonly run grade 4 in club gear when they run jacksons. Most grade 4s in ireland are grade 3+s with a few grade 4 rapids (eg. the dargle). Is it any different to the club doing a static at jacksons and everyone running it 5 times?
its an easy out to say this stuff and then kill off discussing it and improving whats in place at the moment.
Matt:
My bad, I'm being a buzz-kill. Go on have an auld chat with the Sports Office or the AUC Simon, and see what they say to you.
Tiny Tim:
I'd have to agree with mat im afraid. While it is really important that people get out on harder water and up their skills, club gear complicates matters.
With grade 4 rivers (the Dargle and Glenmac in particular) boats and bodies can get broken during a swim.
While if you break it you buy it is a fine idea, the time it could take for a student to get 500 quid together may mean the club being without boats for a good few months on club trips. Imagine being short on say 3 GTs for a few months.
I think the annamoe however is good to go (including Jacksons). Perhaps an exception could be made for Jacksons somehow. Its arguably grade 4, but only arguably. While there is difficulty in terms of getting the line right (making it grade 4) the consequences of blowing your line are low (far lower than the likes of the Dargle or Glenmac)
Lastly how is it that club trips can be run down Jacksons with club gear but private trips cant? Is it cos we get a level 4 instructor?
Matt:
--- Quote from: Tiny Tim on April 19, 2012, 14:17:18 ---Lastly how is it that club trips can be run down Jacksons with club gear but private trips cant? Is it cos we get a level 4 instructor?
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Cos of the L4 instructor. I suppose if you had a L4 instructor you could run a club trip on the Glens, could you?
Tiny Tim:
--- Quote from: Matt on April 19, 2012, 14:21:20 ---
--- Quote from: Tiny Tim on April 19, 2012, 14:17:18 ---Lastly how is it that club trips can be run down Jacksons with club gear but private trips cant? Is it cos we get a level 4 instructor?
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Cos of the L4 instructor. I suppose if you had a L4 instructor you could run a club trip on the Glens, could you?
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Yeah i thought that was it alright.
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