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UCDCC BoaterX Attempt II

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Karen:
Still in college simon, sorry.

Also, how old does that make you feel?  :P

Eoghan:
Yo Karen people were getting on to me about being their oldie?

How old does that make YOU  feel?  ;)

Maryanne:
Dave O'Reilly is on a team as an oldie.
We're all old...

I've been thinking about this, the old "over 25, graduated, with a job and a year of freshers don't know you" qualification is too small a pool nowadays, there aren't enough people who fulfill those conditions who still kayak and turn up around the club.

If we want to be able to say we have oldies we need to redefine what they are to get a new generation of them, or else no one will think they're an oldie and the role will be lost.  :'(

Now I'd say an oldie is anyone
- past their 5th/6th year in the club (ie that's the same gap as between a secondary school first year and a 6th year)
- old enough to have memories from the year today's freshers were born (1993 and 1994)
- was in the club more before 5 years ago (2007-08, before any of the freshers, 2nd years, 3rd years or committee joined)

Other signs
...the people who were oldies when you started are married with kids/have sensible careers/cars/other traits of full blown adulthood
...you don't get the club bus anymore (rivertrips/weekends away)
...are shocked by the fact that this year's freshers did their Leaving Cert in 2012

Contributing/detracting factors
...being around the club in an instructing role can accelerate the track to perceived oldiehood (eg Dave O'R)
...being on committee (except as senior treasurer) can mask oldiehood (temporarily) since you're around so much

kmck:
Sorry Maryanne only Oldies decide who oldies are! I was made an Oldie by Brendino, in the traditional ceremony, after I got my Degree, I was still in college but was now recognised as an oldie by other oldies. Some people were oldies the moment they joined the club.

Oldies were never a big pool of people and every few years the numbers of Oldies directly involved in the club peak then drop. My particular fresher year had a large number of oldies who've since stopped paddling with the club. For a number of reasons: One of the biggest being emigration. Second on the list is they don't have time to give up an entire day to a club trip and thirdly they took up other sports which aren't so water level related, the number of former UCD oldies on mountain bikes!

On that note, Eoghan I see you as an Oldie, as a former Captain you've pretty much been one since last year.

Med students are always difficult I will consult with my fellow oldies and produce a ruling from the sacred scroll of IJMIU

Simon R.:
while not bothering to read anyones post in any detail above... it appears i've stirred the hornets nest.

I always used the term oldie as someone who has been through fresher and then a year or 2 of the club. I for instance am still in college but am definitely an oldie!

I've never considered that oldie refers to someones age (no insult intended above karen)! else we'd have to coin terms like geriatric for some of the people who are still about.

my suggestion for including some more senior club members as oldies was simply because there are less of us then there are freshers and second/3rd year club members.

This is a fun boaterX and I'll be on 10 teams if people need me. I'd be hopeful that people would join teams with people they don't know or as a suggestion I can generate teams so that everyone might get to know everyone else a bit better for the night of the ball.

Discuss...

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