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EGM to amend the constitution (Mon 27 Feb)

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aidan j:
My first year in the club, when I actually paddled occasionally, i think it was set at:

€10: for bus and gear
€10: for gear and lift in private car
Free: for gear and driver of private car (no roofracks)
Got petrol money: if you drove private car with roofracks.

I don't know what it cost if you had your own gear and didn't take the bus, that seemed to be alot less common back then.

Thats how it was explained to me 3 years ago, but that could have been wrong even back then.

Asho87:
Good point Claire! think thats definitely something that was never made clear altho i went with the 50 quid option thing whicg was also a really good idea... and also those of us (ahem.. me) who dont quite make it to all the trips are loosing money if we dont turn up so it kinda encourages u to turn up cos u know uve paid! does that make sense???

Diarmaid:
but does that sort of thing need to be in the Constitution? couldn't it just be a rule or something?

Also, we can't make any official mention of petrol money. As anyone who has ever travelled with me will know, I have quite a firm policy of ixnay on the etrolpay until we reach the destination - in the event of an accident, as is my understanding of it, drivers who have negotiated payment of petrol money with their passengers are technically charging the passengers for transport and there's complications there... they're operating as an unlicensed taxi or they're liable for their passengers' safety or something. don't know the details but I've always been advised against any straight-up negotiation of petrol money terms.

meabh:
hey guys, thanks for all the feedback if anyone has any suggestions do talk to one of the committee....in particular fergal or tom as they were very involved in the new const.

i agree with donnie that that paragraph re. code of good practice is too restrictive, club trips are run in accordance with the code, thats the whole pt. of having it, don't think there should be procedure's like that set in stone, they're more things that  committee's decide

A constitution is supposed to be a relatively unchanging document, obviously there should be the possibility of ammendments but that doesn't happen every few weeks, claire's point is very valid but probably just a rule that should be clarified rather than put in the const, our take on it was that anyone who needed boat, gear, bus space, trailer space OR rescue should be paying for club trips...so the only people who didn't have to pay were rescue drivers with all their own gear or their rescue passengers with all their own gear, and they can sort out their own petrol issues. obviously as i'm sure you guys can appreciate its easy to miss one or two, especially when ppl are going in private cars, but we'd more than welcome anyone who feels they want to pay etc. Also anyone who is a driver with all their own gear etc but feels they are benefiting from coming out with the club and being a member and wants to help support the club is also welcome to pay!

To kieran re the 8 members, we felt that having 8 members on the committee was a benefit, ucdcc is a very big and very active club, 1 less would not make any significant(?) differance to meetings but it does make quite a difference in the workload that people have to shoulder so we didn't want to reduce the committee below 8, also nml and pro do provide important roles and pro in particular while maybe not specific enough in the previous constitution actually is quite an important job in the new constitution with a more specific list of what they have to do.

Keep the advice coming, it can be quite difficult to see the flaws when your working on something so the outside input really helps!

kmck:
Since I was the poor schlub with the pen & paper on saturday, I was the one getting money while tome and phil tied up the trailer. Just to say I was asked to collect money off everyone. Maria did point out that she was a driver, we had "words" after I had told her to take it up with tom. Afterwords I went to tom and suggested to him to give Maria back her money on the grounds that she was driving and bringing boats. Firstly sorry Maria if getting the sharp end of my tongue upset you, secondly this is something we need to sort out as has been pointed out more people with cars no roof racks means less people on the bus, but still gear on the bus for them. On saturday I used a club boat gave five euro to tom and five to my driver. On the issue of petrol money it is not like a taxi as you don't agree you just offer it to help cover the costs of journey not to line the pockets of your driver.
My own suggestion is this if you are getting a lift in a car using private gear, just pay your driver. If you are using club gear but it is going on the car pay the club a fiver and the driver for petrol. If travelling in a car with no roof rack pay the club a tenner and the driver should be reimbursed from the club.

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