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Sara:
River-wise I think it would be a shame to leave Co. Kerry, So for the To Kerry or Not to Kerry question I would definitely say Kerry!!
The Pro's of Rossbeigh would need to be met by another Kerry location;
Houses close together (at least 10 houses)
A beach with surf possibility within walking distance for non driver types
A big pub

But thats all stating the obvious, I'd be happy to go back to the same place again although finding a house where heating and electricity costs are included would be pure amazing!

Sara

Monkey Loving Bob:
I'd be happy to move, to be honest there was an awful lot of people giving out about accomodation costs - that'll happen, however as Cian has said, the actual increases involved are excessive. Moving needn't remove us from Kerry so the actual trip itself could remain similar and as accessible. Inch, Kenmare. etc are all small places with a wealth of tourist accomodation available. Who said change is a bad thing.

Kieran, your point about the way our little misdemeanours being forgiven over the years is well taken - however our business might be a bit more appreciated for a year's absence. A realistic perspective would be that we are gouged when we go to Rossbeigh, how much more can students with no income afford, I know I wouldn't spend that much money on accomodation for a week in winter. Period.

Kerry is made by the people you go away with, it can happen anywhere as long as your friends are there. If the other colleges agree I think it would be good to move it, possibly with an eye to bringing it back. Who knows?

my2c

Diarmaid:
right, obviously I don't have a whole lot of say in picking a venue from a paddling perspective, but I think it's safe to say we should aim for the west coast, for the novelty, for surf, and for mountains and hence rivers.

I like the present setup where there is really only one trip per county, so Clare and Sligo are out. Achill in August is declining but Mayo is still kind of 'done'. Likewise, everybody is in Galway frequently. While Galway or Mayo could work, for the sake of something different we should look at Kerry, West Cork, or Donegal (although obviously it wouldn't be the end of the world to do the same county twice in a year).

Attendance at Kerry this year consisted of people from Dublin (from where it's much of a muchness where on the west coast you go), Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Galway, etc (i.e. the southwest). While we could easily get to Donegal, I can't imagine Cork or Waterford being too keen on this idea.

In that case, the venue should be in West Cork or Kerry.

I agree that house prices are rising in Rossbeigh, although pints dropped this year by a fair bit (but maybe that was just the temporary change of management). Still, €100 for 7 nights (which is what I paid for an ice box) is cheaper than any hostel, so we can't complain that much.

The one very good thing Rossbeigh has going for it is the Ross Inn. It's a big pub in the middle of nowhere, which means we can fill it, we can be the only ones there, and we don't go anywhere else. If we were to be in a town, even a small town with just 2 or 3 pubs, we'd get split up from each other and we wouldn't have the run of the place so much as we do. It'd be more like Colours is, for example.

The key features of a good new year location would be:
west coast
accessible to dublin&munster people
near a surf beach
with rivers nearby
with many houses in close proximity to each other
and a big pub that's not in a town

I've spoken to many people about moving Kerry over the past two or three weeks and while everybody has an opinion about Rossbeigh, nobody has suggested an alternative.

I think Spring Break this year should consist of a scouting road trip for possible new venues. We can pick some likely candidates with the help of an OS map, and then tour up the coast checking them out (yeah, I know it's kinda against the rules to plan spring break, but meh). Would anybody be up for that? Some paddlers to check out the local rivers, some social members to check out the local pubs, and one big messy fact-finding mission in march or april.  ;D

Sick Boy:
€700 for a week dosent seem like too much, untill you see the price list for the following week where the same houses go for €250 or so, no matter what way you put it that is a rediculous increase. people have. if you say donegal rules cork and waterford out you could also say that it possibly rules our nordie neighbours in.

people have suggested alternatives, personally i think inch could be a savage place. it has the same swell as rossbeigh, just the other side of the bay. it would add possibly 20-30 min of drive time on to getting to some of the rivers but that isnt too much and it seems like the kind of place where we could have the entire area to ourselves.

is there anyone form any other clubs reading here who have any ideas on this?

Ley-Ley:
I liked the pub!!

Kilkee could be a good place. There's plenty of holiday homes, I think the surf does be good but the beach is a bit in-closed. I have no clue about rivers though. Does Clare have good rivers? There's also a few pubs in the town. The only problem is the people that go there sometimes.

Great diving too.

West Cork there's Castletownbere, or more isolated is Bere Island but that has no rivers. Allihie's is down the road from Castletown, haven't gone there yet but should be during the summer.

Oh, I think Donegal is a bit far but I suppose it's only once a year.

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