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Diarmaid:
Tom, Conor,

I kinda resent what you're saying to/about me. Yes, I'm a social member, but I never said Kerry is a drinking holiday or that the paddling is unimportant. Obviously the paddling comes first; I know that even if I don't plan on paddling in Kerry, Kerry wouldn't happen without boating.

I didn't say that Tiernan's post was off-topic because it was about kayaking. But the talk about moving Kerry has been going on at least since several months before Kerry 07/08. To say this whole debate is motivated by people not getting value for money this year is mistaken. We have been talking about this even after years when there was plenty of rain.

If paddlers didn't get value for money this year, then that's unfortunate and it exacerbates their grievances with the amount of money they're handing over. But all I said is that the lack of rain this year isn't what initially prompted this discussion - it has been going on a whole lot longer than that.

Also, as I believe someone pointed out already in this thread, the lack of rain this year wasn't localised in Kerry - it was dry all over Ireland. If we had moved Kerry, there still would have been no boating.

So while the lack of paddling this year may have left people with a bad taste in their mouths about the cost of Kerry, it's not something that would be addressed by a change of venue. And a dry Kerry is something that could happen any year, wherever we are.

That's why I said the lack of rain this year wasn't the crux of this issue. It's not because I myself don't paddle. I love this club and I am only interested in its wellbeing, but just because I don't boat that doesn't give you licence to make me out to be a drunken laughing stock. I have opinions about the venue for Kerry, just as the next person does, and I'd appreciate it if you gave me some credit and didn't presume I'd be so short-sighted as not to consider the kayaking in the planning of a kayaking holiday.

 >:(

Sara:
Boys put your handbags away and lets get back to the topic,

Reasons to leave Rossbeigh
1) The ice box houses (rent cost and electricity costs)
2) The Ross inn (service, kid at 3am, anything else)
3) People craving a change of scene

Options
1) Find somewhere different that meets our paddling, surfing and social requirements
2) Clubs negotiate a deal on the ice boxs (Private house renters discuss a deal on private houses)

Reasons to stay in Rossbeigh
1) Surf in walking distance
2) Excellent knowledge and abundance of local rivers
3) A large pub we have almost exclusivity to
4) Houses in walking distance of eachother

Anyone want to copy and paste this list and add some things I've missed???

Sara

Diarmaid:
hmm... it seems I can't edit postsin this particular board. two things:

looking back, it seems the first post about the lack of rain this year was by Tom, not Tiernan. sorry about the mixup.

and Conor, I would like to withdraw your name from the top of my previous post. I was a bit miffed at the time I wrote it but in retrospect there's nothing in your post I have reason to take offence at.

Simon R.:
you should have all just come to uganda with me and ritchie.........

Monkey Loving Bob:
Yeah, that seems to have worked out great for you...

burn...

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