UCD Canoe Club

Boats and Gear => Buy and Sell => Topic started by: Andy J on April 17, 2014, 22:53:57

Title: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 17, 2014, 22:53:57
Hey all. I'm on the lookout for a decent outlaw to buy. Just a heads up, if you see or hear of something I'd love if you could give me a shout!
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Jocano on April 17, 2014, 23:38:22
Looking at recent things going on here on the forum, I'd say Mr Finch is a cheap outlaw. Not sure if decent though.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Peter O'Sullivan on April 17, 2014, 23:47:57
I can't think of any good reason to buy an Outlaw. There are so many cheap playboats for sale you'd be mad to go looking of an ancient design.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Tiny Tim on April 18, 2014, 08:52:45
As a matter of interest why are you interested in an outlaw?
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: kmck on April 18, 2014, 09:46:39
I'm going to use my ancient equipment officer powers and say this is his boat of choice from the club
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: DervM on April 18, 2014, 12:20:31
If you're buying it for yourself then no, we refuse to help you. No no no.

1. You've the use of a grand aul Outlaw or two in the club; don't pay for what you get for free.
2. Outdated model (still a good boat) but it's neither a playboat nor a creeker you can't do either thing properly in it.
3. Boats will come, don't buy too early before you know what you should want  :P.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 18, 2014, 18:05:16
Okay . . . My reasoning (even if its flawed) is that I paddle to have fun, and the outlaw so far have proved to be just that. Okay it's not a creepers or a playboat. But I believe it's a nice mix for club trips. It just about takes the level of rapids and weir we do while still being a blast to paddle. And those tail squirts! And given most of you have pointed out its an old boat means it won't cost me a huge amount for ine in half decent nick. Also club boats are . . . Well club boats . .

There is my reasoning.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Douchier on April 18, 2014, 19:13:11
Hey Andy,


I've an InaZone sitting in the boathouse.
It's a very nice boat to paddle and is perfect for the kind of stuff you mentioned above.


It's yours whenever you want it.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: DervM on April 18, 2014, 19:16:19
Solid points, but my real problem is don't pay for what you get for free.

If you use a club boat very regularly, which you do, then you pretty much have the right to outfit it to your liking (especially as equipment officer  :) ). The only difference between a club Outlaw and one you buy yourself would be outfitting like.

Wooo free stuff!
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 18, 2014, 19:23:41
I left it out of the last post but outfitting is the bit I'd like a bit more of over the club boats. Also if its my own boat I can mess with that aspect of it more and take it out for the summer and so on. That's my take on it anyway.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: DervM on April 18, 2014, 19:36:08
Fair enough! I've not seen any recently anyway, Canoes & Kayaks for Sale on facebook is your best bet for one.

Or take Niall up on his offer ^ similar and fun boat. (Or, if Steven isn't interested in it then I'm thinking about selling my playboat - it's great fun)
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 18, 2014, 19:42:08
Cool. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Steven Mul on April 18, 2014, 19:59:14
(Or, if Steven isn't interested in it then I'm thinking about selling my playboat - it's great fun)

I'm gonna try to get a go in your boat at some point (even though I won't be at the next club trip either :( ) If I was taking it for a spin would I be ok to take out the hip pads you've put on and the footrest??
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: CormacR on April 18, 2014, 21:10:40
I know what you're planning Andy
http://youtu.be/wOamGTfD4z4 (http://youtu.be/wOamGTfD4z4)

I saw a pyranha varun or two knocking about a while ago. They'd be gone by now but it'd be one to look out for. In the same vein as an outlaw or inazone but, being a newer mold, mightn't be as beat up.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: DervM on April 18, 2014, 21:23:39
If I was taking it for a spin would I be ok to take out the hip pads you've put on and the footrest??

Oh yeah totally! Just keep them super safe and put them back in. I think the footblock is adjustable, so you can just take the layers off and leave yourself some ankle protection. And same with the hip pads they're pocket ones.

I know what you're planning Andy
http://youtu.be/wOamGTfD4z4 (http://youtu.be/wOamGTfD4z4)

Savage.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 18, 2014, 22:05:57
Cormac, my normal excitement for paddling an outlaw has just gone up tenfold!
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Peter O'Sullivan on April 18, 2014, 22:24:53
Times have moved on. http://vimeo.com/29070922 (http://vimeo.com/29070922) So much, you might even get an Outlaw for nearly free is you posted on the canoes and kayaks for sale thing in FB.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Ross on April 19, 2014, 00:14:22
My own two cents would be to take up Niall B on his offer, and wait until you know what you want, because you will feel the outlaw limiting as you improve over the next few months.

Have you been in a playboat yet Andy? Give it a shot, you might enjoy it more than an outlaw...
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 19, 2014, 09:49:43
Yes I've had a lash in a playboat, still have to out the outlaw above it in terms of the fun scale. It may well begin to limit me, but then again I may not hold into it for ages either.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: CormacR on April 19, 2014, 13:21:01
These lads are all mad to get rid of their boats
http://goo.gl/fCaJlL (http://goo.gl/fCaJlL)

Most of them will be falling apart and be more repair than kayak but there might be something useful. They'll be dirt cheap but you'll have virtually no chance of selling one on when you're done.

But yeah. Whatever you end up with, I'm going to want to have a go.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: DervM on April 19, 2014, 16:12:05
These lads are all mad to get rid of their boats
http://goo.gl/fCaJlL (http://goo.gl/fCaJlL)

Was just about to link that. There's also a Riot Disco further down the page - Ross likes those so would know more. What playboat have you tried? Was it a G-Force? Cause I'd fully agree that they're not always as much fun as an Outlaw or an Inazone.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Ross on April 19, 2014, 16:33:26
There's also a Riot Disco further down the page - Ross likes those so would know more.

Yeah, no I don't like it...
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 19, 2014, 16:52:51
Is it the all star in the pool? Also messed about in one of UL's playboats in their pool . . . Dagger, can't remember the make. Though comparing river and pool experiences is dangerous . . .
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Ross on April 19, 2014, 17:24:33
It's a 2010 Star in the pool, which is a size smaller than an Allstar
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Douchier on April 19, 2014, 20:25:09
G'wan, take my InaZone.


You'll thank me.






ps. it's got a proper ratchet backrest and hip-pads.
Title: Re: Outlaw search
Post by: Andy J on April 19, 2014, 21:01:29
I'll have a lash off it on the next river trip and ill get back to you.