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Boats and Gear => Buy and Sell => Topic started by: Una on December 04, 2006, 10:38:48

Title: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Una on December 04, 2006, 10:38:48
Morning all,

I came in for a bit of a windfall last week and want to spend it on a set of paddles.  Any words of wisdom of what I should get, look out for, ask about etc.?  I will just need them for river running, not surfing (got my board for that) or play boating (cause that's way beyond my abilities right now).  Something that will keep me upright and not too long cause I'm little.

Cheers
Únaxxx
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: kmck on December 04, 2006, 10:43:12
Blade face, you want a blade face that is not too powerful, I would suggest either a tempest or a werner Amigo. Short shaft about 190-192 witha 45 degree feather. Lower if your wrists get at you.
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: david on December 04, 2006, 11:12:13
Make sure you get a rounded socket on yours. I didn't and i'm still stuck with them >:(
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Una on December 04, 2006, 11:26:50
Cheers Dave & KmcK.

Excuse my ignorance...but what's / where's a socket on a paddle?  Why should it be rounded?  What's the alternative?  I haven't a notion!

Úx
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Monkey Loving Bob on December 04, 2006, 16:05:56
If they're in good nick, the blades tom is selling are a good price. Otherwise Something predictable and not overpowering like Rough Stuff's Tempests, Werner's Sherpa, Robson Greens are all good blades designed for river running, Tempests probably the strongest of the lot powerwise. Go for something common ( like 45degrees) on the feather (it makes them easier to sell should you change your mind) and 194cm - 196cm would probably be a nice length if you're looking at a little bit of everything. This is purely opinion, best way to find out what suits is to borrow and try different blades and ask more experienced paddlers what they reckon  when you're paddling.

P.S. I love my Kinetics and I know Mark does an 80% cut down version, works quite well... ::)
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Sick Boy on December 04, 2006, 19:23:15
yah dave, what are rounded sockets?
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: kmck on December 05, 2006, 09:13:51
Actually I would like to know that as well?
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: david on December 05, 2006, 15:36:23
The bit between the blade and the shaft. needs to be rounded so it can flex.
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Monkey Loving Bob on December 05, 2006, 15:51:41
Non-issue really dave as most oval shafts would crack during assembly as the spigot is inserted. If this works out ninety nine pecent of the time the glass shaft (Carbon has it's own issues) will have plenty of flex to absorb any impacts. However if you do have a problem with this you can bring it back as a warranty issue due to it being a manufacturing defect that should have been noticed during assembly. Robson and Werner can't suffer from this due to the way they're constructed.

Cheers for clearing that up dave because I was a bit confused as to what you meant.

Conor
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Simon R. on December 06, 2006, 16:21:29
rounded socket....dave your an idiot
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: david on December 06, 2006, 17:46:59
Non-issue really dave as most oval shafts would crack during assembly as the spigot is inserted. If this works out ninety nine pecent of the time the glass shaft (Carbon has it's own issues) will have plenty of flex to absorb any impacts. However if you do have a problem with this you can bring it back as a warranty issue due to it being a manufacturing defect that should have been noticed during assembly. Robson and Werner can't suffer from this due to the way they're constructed.

Cheers for clearing that up dave because I was a bit confused as to what you meant.

Conor

Yeah, whatever monkey boy,

Una, just be sure and ask for rounded sockets on your paddles.
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Monkey Loving Bob on December 06, 2006, 21:17:49
Dave - you're an idiot...
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: david on December 07, 2006, 08:39:36
Non-issue really kyle, you'r the idiot....  ;D
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Monkey Loving Bob on December 07, 2006, 10:20:27
Hey dum-dum, let's not go picking on fresher's here, as captain I thought you were meant to help and support these new club members, besides, Kyle seems like a nice enough guy 8)
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Una on December 07, 2006, 11:10:40
Right lads, thanks for the advice.
1. Look for rounded sockets
2. check length
3. don't get too powerful blades
4. Borrow blades in Kerry and give them a go...you have all been warned! 

Hope y'all had a good night last night.
Únaxxx
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Mark on December 08, 2006, 16:46:07
Ask teh people you borrow them off if they have "rounded sockets aswell".

I'm sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about. Honest!
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Galwayhead on December 12, 2006, 15:14:31
Ive had a set of Robson Pogos for 2 and a half years now. Im really happy with em. Ive a 45 degree ish feather which is grand for rivers but not too good for balancing on the bow, jus gettin the hang of it wit mates' blades.
Try not to get a wider offset or your wrists will get at you, below 20 and you're headin for the angle many playboaters use.
The length will depend on a couple of factors, longer means you have more reach for boofin over stuff and have longer more powerful strokes. Shorter means you can make the transition from side to side quicker and build up speed with shorter faster strokes, more useful for playboating.
Cranked shafts is a possibility. Some people like em some dont. Im not too keen on em but i havent used em much.
A major influence is your personal build. Taller people with fairly broad shoulders use longer blades.
Blade size: tempests, kinetics, pogos, greens, werners.
I used a set of robson studs, slightly bigger blade, on the boyne with your gang a month r 2 ago and my wrists were sore after.
So u may want to avoid big ones like chillies, oracles, studs. (anyone want to start a debate on H2Os or Ty Warps? Colm will fix em quickly + efficiently but he gets a fair few of these jobs)
Material depends on how much u wanna spend carbon, glass r wotever i dont know much bout these. Carbons stronger rite?

Could someone explain this socket thingy?
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Bill on December 14, 2006, 11:42:56
Good God Una DON'T even mention rounded sockets or they will think you are mad!
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: david on December 14, 2006, 13:57:35

Could someone explain this socket thingy?

It's simple: Rounded Sockets = greater flex.

Be sure you don't go greater than 4.9 though. that's just too much flex.

Oh Una, Ignore bill, They won't think your mad, just an informed buyer. :D
Title: Re: Paddles for a refresher
Post by: Bill on December 14, 2006, 15:20:51
OH they won't say it to your face. They'll be totally professional and the they won't let on they think you are mad. But the minute you leave the shop they will be falling around the shop with the laughter and saying things like "Did you hear that mad one........sockets.....HAHAHAHA........She wanted rounded sockets....HAHAHAHAHA" That's why Dave thinks it's a legitimate question. You should ask about him in some of the shops. They love to see him come in the door. They think he's hilarious