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Boats and Gear => Buy and Sell => Topic started by: kjt on July 16, 2007, 10:01:51

Title: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 16, 2007, 10:01:51
Howdy folks,
So I'm going to buy a helmet. Is there anything I should look out for? Any good places online to buy from?


Any tips/advice would be great :)


Thanks
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 16, 2007, 11:37:32
How much are you willing to spend? There is the wrsi helemt which is one size fits all and its cheap. A version of what the club uses is also a good idea for a one hit wonder. If you are looking for style rather than safety then look into sweet srutter helmet. The sweet rocker which I have gives better coverage but buy online much cheaper 130 compared to 250 in ireland.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: JODY on July 16, 2007, 12:09:57
You can buy my helmet 2nd hand if ya want. I'll let it go cheap  ;D
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 16, 2007, 12:39:36
I'd be willing to spend in and around €200. Do you have
any sites off hand Kieran? + remember I have a fat head
and alorra Krazy hair to fit in there. I might try on some
other peoples helmets before I buy online just to make
sure I have the right size.

What sorta helmet you got Jody? Not too sure I want cooties ;)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: JODY on July 16, 2007, 12:45:23
Yeah i'll take €200 for my helmet! Cheers!  ;D

Actually i think its only fit for the bin now :'(
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 16, 2007, 13:15:18
http://www.happy-2b.com/new/pages/helmets.htm (http://www.happy-2b.com/new/pages/helmets.htm)
www.outdoorplay.com (http://www.outdoorplay.com)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 16, 2007, 13:21:56
Thanks folks, will have a look into them :)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 16, 2007, 13:28:12
You can always isze your helmet in the shop then order online.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: caz on July 16, 2007, 18:31:19
i got my protec helmet for 90€ in great outdoors. it's a perfectly good helmet no reason to fork out mad amounts of money.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: JODY on July 16, 2007, 20:11:07
If you can afford a helmet with better coverage go for it, i thought the pro tec was pretty good but apparently it still leaves part of your head exposed :'( Once i get the cash together i'll be looking for something better. You dont wanna learn the hard way that you should have spent the extra cash when you had the chance!

The sweet rockers may look stupid but what can ya do?
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Brendino on July 16, 2007, 20:45:04
Put a price on your brain and spend that much on a helmet. Think about it.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: caz on July 16, 2007, 20:56:49
Put a price on your brain and spend that much on a helmet. Think about it.

that means your budget will be about €10 kyle.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 16, 2007, 21:13:10
haha ya cheeky cow. I was gonna make the same type of response but you beat me too it. Nicely put Brendino
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: eoinor on July 16, 2007, 22:12:00
I've always kinda wanted one of these!

(http://www.shredready.com/images/Newproductshots/newlarge/SHD_Lektor.MatteBLACK.jpg)

Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: bexifurr on July 17, 2007, 06:45:16
WRSi are great. White water Reasearch and Safety Institute. It is a safety institute that is associated with John Hopkins Research Centre.


Google WRSI for the address. The helmets are 70 USD and are one size fits all. They come with a shit load of padding to sort yuo out.

WRSi was set up by the parents of lucas turner who died in a kayaking accident cos he was wearing a shit helmet - where a decent helemt could have saved his life.

They helmets are affordable and very safe. They come in a wide variety of colours and are multi impact.

There customer service teama re super. If you look at the website, the photo on the front page is Kalagala Falls, the first rapid on the day two section of the nile.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Sara on July 17, 2007, 10:11:47
If I was buying a new helmet I'd probably go for one of these
http://www.shredready.com/products/shaggy.html
I think cheesy has one, they had two dial things at the back that you turn to make the helmet fit nice and snugly to your head. Also good coverage and the peak is good for face and nose protection.

Sara
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 17, 2007, 11:44:20
I was thinking of going for this (http://www.happy-2b.com/new/pages/skook.htm) ?

I've seen a few in the club with em
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 17, 2007, 11:51:10
I think Ollie and Joxer use them. Ollie is under ollitrix I think on the wesite if you want to pm him.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: JODY on July 17, 2007, 12:02:52
I think Cian has one of those but i could be wrong! ???
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Sara on July 17, 2007, 12:44:13
the river sunner is a similar style with more back of head coverage, i'd go for that over the skook.

Sara
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 17, 2007, 12:50:31
Yea I'm torn between the two. Will probably go for the more coverage.

Thanks for ALL the advice ppl :)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Asho87 on July 17, 2007, 12:51:24
Get Joey's one!!! Cow print!!

(http://gallery.ucdcanoeclub.com/albums/Lahinch-photos-good-ones%21/PB180017.jpg)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Jim on July 17, 2007, 13:09:59
Some more info for you...

I have the one Sara mentioned http://www.shredready.com/products/shaggy.html (http://www.shredready.com/products/shaggy.html) which also has the advantage that you can wear it frontwards or backwards depending on where you want the peak. Great stuff. Disclosure - I got mine for free.

Simon has the http://www.shredready.com/products/fullmental.html (http://www.shredready.com/products/fullmental.html) which has really good coverage.

It's all about the coverage really and forgetting about the cool-looking freestyle dude ones. Also, in my opinion, go composite rather than plastic, although beware that 'composite' just means a mix of plastic and fibreglass, without specifying ratios.

Jim.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Jim on July 17, 2007, 13:18:22
WRSi are great. White water Reasearch and Safety Institute. It is a safety institute that is associated with John Hopkins Research Centre.
Hey Bex, don't believe everything you read on the interweb. These guys are about as valid an institute as the club, eh, wait that sounds wrong. Anyway, they're very controversial, try looking them up on Boatertalk. That said everyone says the helmets are good, but the back story is not as simple as their website says.

Why are you on the internet so much - is Uganda really rubbish or something? You're missing all the water here.

And another thing, in general...

Lots of folks buy helmets that initially give good coverage and then wear skullcaps under them, resulting in poorer coverage on the forehead. This seems to be particularly true of the trendy freestyle helmets. Watch out for that.

Jim.

Jim.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: joey on July 18, 2007, 10:34:42
Id say get the Happy 2b river helmet!! i have the skook and it leaves a lot of the back of the head exposed! i have my trusty old pro tec for running any rivers i think ill be upside down on alot!
And just bout the WRSI helmet, its a really nice helmet and reminds me of the helmets the batters wear in baseball, but the son of the couple that set it up was wearing a protec, but as far as i know it was a protec that should have been returned to the manufacturers as that batch were recalled for safety reasons!. Joey
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Jim on July 18, 2007, 11:18:12
Not quite Joey. This is exactly the bad information going around the web for a few years now about ProTec. The WRSI people put up a website calling themselves a safety institute and calling for a recall of ProTec helmets, which they blamed for their son's death. ProTec didn't recall their helmets and nothing was ever shown to be wrong with ProTec helmets.

It's nasty marketing. I mean it's terrible that someone died, but it's never been shown to be ProTec's fault. If you search around for this, the only source of this 'recall' is WRSI's website. For this reason, I wouldn't touch WRSI helmets.

Jim.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: joey on July 18, 2007, 14:27:56
THat sounds a bit more like it alright!! Sure i have a protec and its great!! no need to spend hundreds on a helmet!! they are a great fit and look nice! nad in Great outdoors they are E99.99!! cant beat that!! nad just for u KJT i will knock 10% of that price!!!
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 18, 2007, 14:49:46
Depends on how you tighten the straps of the helmet. If you don't adjust it right it can be pushed off backwards or forwards. Adjust it so when it is on it doesn't move. In jodys case the rock came up and under the helmet from behing missing all the padding. This is why a full cut helmet is your best option. They won't look very stylish but they cover your whole head. Make sure it fits covers the vitals, the base of the spin as it hits the skull and your temples. If something hits these your out and maybe worse.
Simons is the nazi fun rafting special
(http://gallery.ucdcanoeclub.com/albums/album11/gear_simon_02.jpg)
Classic club model also covers the head
(http://gallery.ucdcanoeclub.com/albums/AnnamoeTrip/Yvonne.jpg)
Kylies from the alps, he got a whack of the head and look still smiling
(http://gallery.ucdcanoeclub.com/albums/Les-Alpes/100_1754.jpg)
Alternatively where a wig and quickly put on a helmet mid flight
(http://gallery.ucdcanoeclub.com/albums/Les-Alpes/100B1701.jpg)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Diarmaid on July 18, 2007, 15:14:39
is there much difference to your hearing between a full cut helmet and something more like a baseball cap? I really only ever wore the club helmets but I noticed that if I ever had a skullcap on it was all but impossible to hear, especially once water got in. does the same happen with the ear protection of the helmet itself? if I were ever to resume paddling and consider buying a helmet, I'd be very wary of ear protection for that reason.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: JODY on July 18, 2007, 15:18:33
Thats what signals are for stupid! ::) Anyway most of the time you cant hear much over the noise of the water so i imagine it doesnt really matter if the helmet covers your ears.... unless youre just out on the Boyne for a chat or something?
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: Diarmaid on July 18, 2007, 16:55:47
signals are fine in the middle of something, but what about when you regroup in an eddy before you run something, and you can't even hear the person in the boat next to yours describing the line you need for the next part?


yes... that's my excuse...
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: JODY on July 18, 2007, 17:17:06
No better way to learn how to pick youre own line ;D
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 19, 2007, 08:57:01
Even when you are not wearing a helmet you have this problem in day to day life.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: bexifurr on July 20, 2007, 09:25:18
Happy2b dont do custom helmets anymore. if you order one then theyll take your money and have nothing to deliver to you.


Jim,

on the bluidy net so much with internet banking. paddling is great, on the water about three to six hours a day. saferty kayaking for nre this week for a bit of money, hopefully wont be on the net so much then!
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 20, 2007, 12:02:30
I just got this (http://www.gotriver.com/images/protec_2006/jpg/protec_ace_wake_helmet_red_large_2006.jpg) badboy :) - Thanks for all the advice

It's SO shiny I don't wanna wear it (outside the house)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 20, 2007, 12:33:11
Not going to say this was the one that Jody was wearing. Just make sure it fits your giant cranium.
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 20, 2007, 13:11:57
It covers my Spheniod bone but doesn't cover my Zygomatic bone... Should be fine though :)
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kmck on July 20, 2007, 13:35:53
Your cheek bone?
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: kjt on July 20, 2007, 13:53:08
;) You got it man, you got it
Title: Re: Buying a helmet
Post by: caz on July 20, 2007, 14:53:10
that's my helmet! we rock. i keep mine in a special bag so it doesnt get scratched and stays nice and shiney. so far ive only used it as a cycling helmet though.