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General => Foreign Trips => Topic started by: Evan on September 29, 2008, 19:36:55

Title: China
Post by: Evan on September 29, 2008, 19:36:55
The time has come when I have to start considering where in China I want to go next year. A couple of quick questions just in case anybody can answer them:

1. How expensive is it to fly a boat long distance?
2. Is it worth my while bringing the boat with me?
3. Does anybody know if either Beijing or Shanghai have any decent paddling?

Any other general info on traveling with a boat/paddling in China would be appreciated.

Evan

And no I don't really expect a huge response.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Diarmaid on September 29, 2008, 20:15:17
shanghai is at the mouth of the third longest river in the world... I can't imagine there's a whole lot of elevation.
Title: Re: China
Post by: fityounggranny on September 29, 2008, 21:42:59
Even if it had elevation....

Its a chinese river... if its any way like the ganges, i would not go near it...

Not if it had the single bestest rapid/wave/run in the world!!!
Title: Re: China
Post by: kill on September 29, 2008, 22:06:42
Beijing has a newly built artificial slalom course. I'm sure you can check on the web whether or not it's available to the public/ closed/ used as an overflow storage area (get it?)/ used to dispose of young children and Tibetans alike.

A lot of long haul flights just lash the boat on for free. Others charge up to €100 one-way. Others simply refuse. It depends on the airline which depends on the place you're going to. When you know what ailines you might use, check the 'special baggage' list on their website and read about all the crazy stuff that gets taken on planes.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Sean on September 29, 2008, 22:19:49
Hey evan,

I can tell you that there is definately kayaking in China and most of it is big volume stuff and multiday. I know that there's definately a nice gorge section outside beijing though cant remember the name of the river and haven't paddled it myself. I think Dave Byrne knows a lad over there at the moment but you'll have to ask him. In the mean time these boys may be able to answer some questions for ya, http://www.enrgkayaking.com/index.php?Itemid=86&id=32&option=com_content&task=view (http://www.enrgkayaking.com/index.php?Itemid=86&id=32&option=com_content&task=view) Or if you can speak/read chinese this is supposed to be a good website www.raftchina.com (http://www.raftchina.com)

As for bringing your kayak on flights - long haul flights generally let you bring sports equipment for free, as long as you remember to keep things under the weight limit. So for example as happened to me coming back from america last week - I had a luggage limit of 36kg so with my boat weighing 14kg I had 22kgs for clothes etc. I found this easily do-able. The main thing is to find out who you're potentially flying with and give them a bell and check if they have restrictions on sports equipment - I know for example that KLM under no circumstances except kayaks, while Qatar and others have no problems taking boats.

As for wether or not its worth while bringing a boat is up to you. I know some rafting operations out there rent kayaks, though I don't know prices or conditions etc. If you're not going to be paddling much this is a good option. So get in touch with rafting companies and check things out.

Later
Sean
Title: Re: China
Post by: Lucy on September 30, 2008, 11:24:20
China is fricking awesome...good choice. My flights to Beijing AND out of Shanghai cost me E745 euro or something like that from usit office! I wasn't bringing a boat though.
Title: Re: China
Post by: holly on October 03, 2008, 04:47:56
mmm... china....
ditch the boat and bring an appetite instead.
best 3 months of my life!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Cheesy on October 03, 2008, 04:55:04
mmm china!!!
tasty
just rmember this phrase

ei ping pyjoe!!

and then once you have the beer it's

gam-bay!!!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Dave B on October 03, 2008, 19:05:50
my mates in laos... not too sure on paddling in china, i know there's definitely good rivers but there seems to be lots of restrictions making it very difficult, probably best hooking up with a raft company. I wouldn't bring a boat unless it's the purpose of your travels, rent them out there, or you can probably pick up a cheap one.

another usefull phrase is...

 wo diu le wo de teddy shiong. ni neung ku wo yi chi soy ma   

say it as you'd read it....    :)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Brendino on October 03, 2008, 20:20:40
I know that when I was in Sydeny you could rent out a boat and all the gear that you needed and they delivered it and me to the Olympic course which was open to the public. The local council ran the facility. I'm sure that if you do some investigating, the local council or some other organisation will probably be doing the same thing.

Best of Luck.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Evan on October 07, 2008, 12:53:49
I know that when I was in Sydeny you could rent out a boat and all the gear that you needed and they delivered it and me to the Olympic course which was open to the public. The local council ran the facility. I'm sure that if you do some investigating, the local council or some other organisation will probably be doing the same thing.

Best of Luck.

Apparently they are turning the rowing/canoeing park into a holiday resort of some sort.
Title: Re: China
Post by: tonshin on October 20, 2008, 15:29:31
eh? Just saw this post :o
When will this trip be? I guess it will be in the summer? Not sure if I'll be here by that time, else I'm in, just to show off my super awesome language skills ;D.  Really, I'm still here in Jan, and I can go from 21st to 28th Jan :P, imaging having a translator with you ::), you know you all want me ;)
As for the places, I'm OK with either Beijing or Shanghai, I would also suggest Dalian or Qingdao (close to the sea), or middle China (the most famous and best sights for rivers), very nice smaller cities (still bigger than Dublin thou) instead of big international cities, or even Hainandao, which is like Hawaii (Chinese version); it will be good for a winter trip  :P. Dalian or Qingdao is sortta in the north, so better to go in summer. The Olympic was in Qingdao, for those water sports, not in Beijing :P. From what I can remember, Beijing is not close to rivers that has a name on the map, and Shanghai is close to a big river where ships will take all the space I assume, you don't want to be run over by a titanic ship. :-X
Anyway, if the time in Jan is OK, I can look up more details, else can only help here, not over there :'(
Cheers,
Tonshin
Title: Re: China
Post by: Evan on October 20, 2008, 16:19:24
This is just me looking for advice before I go to study in China for a year next September.

THIS IS NOT A CLUB TRIP!
Title: Re: China
Post by: Towelyey on October 20, 2008, 16:43:58
he he he!! why didnt you say it was a club trip!?!?!?!? when are we going? is it free?? will there be club booze??
Title: Re: China
Post by: finch on October 20, 2008, 16:47:21
CHINESE CLUB HOOCH !!!!!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Towelyey on October 20, 2008, 16:53:05
oh evan!! this is a great plan!! im so glad you're treasurer :)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Asho87 on October 20, 2008, 16:57:21
yeh definitely... it's all in the grant!! :)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Towelyey on October 20, 2008, 16:59:25
NICE :)

so evan what part of china are we going to?? id kinda like to see the great wall so anywhere near there would be cool :)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Monkey Loving Bob on October 20, 2008, 17:04:55
I'd like to point put that we only ever fly first class on club trips, please factor that inot your costings Evan...
Title: Re: China
Post by: Towelyey on October 20, 2008, 17:11:00
it might be simpler to book a private jet!! linky:

http://www.avolus.com/private-jet.php?gclid=CJnbkqCYtpYCFQMO1QodMUnJLw

Title: Re: China
Post by: Lucy on October 20, 2008, 18:18:38
man, if we can get club booze in China there will be no stopping us. A beer...no....a NICE beer is 50 cent.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Towelyey on October 20, 2008, 18:21:41
if we're getting a private jet we hardly need to scrimp by having beer - champagne all round :)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Sick Boy on October 21, 2008, 20:02:39
finch, you sir had enough beer at freshers to last a very long time.
Title: Re: China
Post by: Diarmaid on October 21, 2008, 20:37:56
so much beer at freshers, but so few freshers-at-beer... *le sigh*
Title: Re: China
Post by: finch on October 22, 2008, 12:47:09
finch, you sir had enough beer at freshers to last a very long time.

Only lasted until Monday night unfortunately  :-[  then i had to find some more  ;D
Title: Re: China
Post by: Sick Boy on October 23, 2008, 18:03:13
:)
Title: Re: China
Post by: Ley-Ley on November 04, 2008, 11:00:08
Freshers only lasted till Sunday. :o

I want to go to China too but tour it, not stay in one place!