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General => Competitions and Training => Topic started by: Douchier on November 01, 2012, 15:15:54

Title: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 01, 2012, 15:15:54
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Post by: MarieH on November 01, 2012, 15:31:59
I'd be interested. And Sunday's would suit too.
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Post by: Bill C on November 01, 2012, 15:32:17
100%
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Post by: Maryanne on November 01, 2012, 16:08:59
I'm in.
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Post by: Chunderdragon on November 01, 2012, 17:04:31
you know it baby
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Post by: Steven Mul on November 01, 2012, 17:10:30
Would this be advised for a fresher or should it be left for a while?
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Post by: Niall Finch on November 01, 2012, 18:28:49
I'm in - presenetly - would have to see what the story wityh me noggen is.
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Post by: Douchier on November 01, 2012, 19:19:59
Would this be advised for a fresher or should it be left for a while?

Hey Stephen,

I'm afraid that this is aimed at people who have a reliable roll. And maybe a couple of other things

It's definitely something that you should look at in the future.

If you're thinking about it but not too sure, or don't want to ask here then feel free to PM/text me/whatever.
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Post by: DervM on November 02, 2012, 01:40:16
Would love to depending on l4 training day.
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Post by: Briain on November 02, 2012, 08:53:03
yeah i'm up for it. Do you know what Sunday it is yet because i would have to get it off work
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Post by: Eoghan on November 02, 2012, 11:01:59
I'd like to go too...  :)
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Post by: Ross on November 02, 2012, 11:06:48
Me also, but Nov 11 probably won't suit me
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Post by: CormacR on November 02, 2012, 12:02:45
Yup
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Post by: Ross on November 05, 2012, 10:47:51
I'll be able to do it Sunday actually...
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Post by: Diarmuid on November 05, 2012, 10:49:23
Throw my name down sure
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Post by: oisin.mchugh on November 05, 2012, 20:57:19
definitely up for it if level 4 training doesnt go ahead :)
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Post by: Chunderdragon on November 06, 2012, 21:11:30
so whats the story with this?
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Post by: Douchier on November 07, 2012, 13:27:07
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Post by: Chunderdragon on November 07, 2012, 13:39:09
can i swap to the 11th please?
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Post by: Niall Finch on November 07, 2012, 13:45:44
Provisionally all good for the 2nd - though it will depend on my head being better by then !  ;D
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Post by: Douchier on November 07, 2012, 18:08:27
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Post by: HelenaC on November 07, 2012, 19:54:43
nose clip!!!
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Post by: Douchier on November 07, 2012, 19:57:49
Oh you.

We'll make river-scum out of you yet!
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Post by: Maryanne on November 07, 2012, 20:35:12
I plan on being definitely 100% better in time for the 2nd of December.
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Post by: Bill C on November 07, 2012, 21:09:51
2nd Dec good
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Post by: CormacR on November 07, 2012, 21:28:25
So this gives us 3 solid weeks of lording our new shit hot freestyle skills over the people doing it on the 2nd. Better make them count.
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 08, 2012, 01:52:10
It would be great if everyone who's going on Sunday could be at the pool today.

I know this might sound weird but we should do some work on rolling. Get a few people and all
try and perfect our rolls, speed them up and maybe pick up a few new ones. Rolling is one of those fundamental things that you can never do too well.

I can assure you that a quicker roll is something that you're really going to appreciate come Sunday

BRAINFREEZE

It's also after a long day, especially if it's cold that you start to get lax, so a bit of tweaking today could make the difference of a swim at the weekend.

Let's BOMB-PROOF those rolls.
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Post by: Bill C on November 08, 2012, 10:51:58
Wear swim hats on Sunday. Don't think, just do it. Stop thinking!
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Post by: kmck on November 08, 2012, 10:58:43
http://www.i-canoe.com/Helmets/Head-wear.htm
I don't use one cause I've a massive head but I bought an earwig nearly seven years ago still in good working order even after only been used for cold freshers on rivers.

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Post by: Chunderdragon on November 08, 2012, 12:17:20
who exactly is driving on sunday and how many spaces have we got. apparantly im not allowed drive cus those roofracks are too dodgy so i'll be needing space!
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 08, 2012, 12:22:33
Marie should be one,

other one TBC

We have to be at Stackallen for 11, so should we say everybody get to the boathouse for nine? and we'll work it all out then.
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: MarieH on November 08, 2012, 12:40:50
Ya, I'll be driving. Cillian has already dibsed a spot in my car so I'v space for two more boats! This day sounds like it's going to be class .... Hoooorah!!

Also, I'll try my best to be at the pool session tonight to tweak my roll, I'v an exam in the morning so it will depend on how prepared I feel.
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: DervM on November 08, 2012, 12:44:41
Can I dibs a spot in your car as well Marie?
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Post by: MarieH on November 08, 2012, 12:45:33
Seat 2 - reserved for Derv
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Post by: Douchier on November 08, 2012, 12:46:45

Also, I'll try my best to be at the pool session tonight to tweak my roll, I'v an exam in the morning so it will depend on how prepared I feel.

Probably be happening mostly in the latter half of the session if that helps?
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 08, 2012, 14:56:46
The Doyle family have been kind enough to lend me their car for the day too, so I'll also be driving.

9am at the boathouse -

There's enough room for everybody so it doesn't really matter who goes where, it's ok to work it out on the morning.
I can however guarantee that my car will feature "Choons"


Don't forget about the pool tonight!


Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Maryanne on November 10, 2012, 23:02:43
The Doyle family have been kind enough to lend me their car for the day too, so I'll also be driving.

So not on the topic of freestyle training, but still, in case anyone isn't aware:

If there is rubbish on the floor, wrappers between the seats, crumbs on the seats, new scratches on the paintwork or any other alterations to the state of the car the only way for me to avoid bearing the full brunt of my mother's wrath will be if I bring her the heads of the people who did it to guarantee they won't be in the car again.
And I'll do it.

Have fun paddling!
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Post by: M1XR on November 11, 2012, 14:13:08
soetimes i wish there was a like button on this board   :D
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Post by: EllenMcG on November 11, 2012, 14:21:47
If there is rubbish on the floor, wrappers between the seats, crumbs on the seats, new scratches on the paintwork or any other alterations to the state of the car the only way for me to avoid bearing the full brunt of my mother's wrath will be if I bring her the heads of the people who did it to guarantee they won't be in the car again.
And I'll do it.

How have our parents never met?....:)
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Post by: Chunderdragon on November 11, 2012, 19:39:35
awesome day today guys, learnt a ton :D
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Post by: MarieH on November 11, 2012, 21:58:19
just chancing my arm, but is there any chance of going on the second day too or is there a number limit? Today was class, wouldn't mind learning a bit more/getting more comfortable with some of the moves.
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Post by: Maryanne on November 11, 2012, 23:01:22
just chancing my arm, but is there any chance of going on the second day too or is there a number limit? Today was class, wouldn't mind learning a bit more/getting more comfortable with some of the moves.

I think it is number dependent, but check this out: http://forum.ucdcanoeclub.com/index.php/topic,10897.0.html
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 13, 2012, 14:02:48
I've updated the lists in the top post.

So...What did everybody think of the session on Sunday?
Was it what you were expecting?
Did you learn much?
Would you do it again?
Is there anything else that you would like to have done?

Ronnie was quite keen for me to ask you guys what you thought and to get any feedback that he could.


Ronnie said that it would be possible for one or maybe two people to come along again if the wanted.
(nobody in particular, just limiting to 1-2 because the group would be getting very big at that point)
Marie, I've stuck your name down
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: kmck on November 13, 2012, 14:24:31
Here's a quick checklist of questions you can answer to help out Ronnie, feedback is a two way street and essential for learning. Learn to critically assess the instruction you're given.
1: Was the instructor friendly
2: Did instructor seem organised
3: Did they explain things well
4: Was their demonstration clear
5: Were corrections done one on one or generally to the group or did the instructor point out particular flaws of the individual to the group as a whole
6: Was there a clear lesson plan
7: Did you achieve any specified goal
8: Did your instructor help you set and achieve a goal
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 13, 2012, 14:35:10
Ah...
If only a bunch of highly intelligent and highly educated university students were capable of analyzing a situation for themselves and forming a cogent critique...

Oh if only...


(then there probably wouldn't be the need for an older member with nothing better to do to patronise them...)

More crayons!
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: kmck on November 13, 2012, 15:00:05
You're right, I've never had any issue with students giving course feedback in my 8 years as a demonstrator or tutor nor have I had issues as an instructor (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Course+feedback+forms)

I would add I was trying to be helpful not patronizing.
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Post by: MarieH on November 13, 2012, 16:09:47

Marie, I've stuck your name down

Cheers

I really enjoyed the day on Sunday. Stackallen was a good spot for it too, the wave is a lot more forgiving than sluice. It's a bit of a trek to get there but there's not much that we can do about that. I thought that starting on the very basics was really good and Ronnie didn't take it for granted that we already knew the fundamentals. He was really good at looking at what you were doing and then telling ya straight after what you did right, what you did wrong and then how to fix it. By the end of the session I saw a big improvement in catching the wave, my carving  and control while on the wave. I noticed I was getting tired towards the end of the session and I could see myself getting a bit sloppy. Maybe making the session a bit more compact might be good, like moving on from the carving a bit sooner.
All in all, I thought it was a brilliant day and as I'v said in an earlier post, would love to do it again!
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on November 27, 2012, 19:42:11
Bump!

A quick reminder to everyone that this is happening on Sunday!
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Post by: MarieH on November 27, 2012, 20:45:32
Is there still room for me on this?
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Post by: Douchier on November 27, 2012, 20:51:42
Yup!
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Post by: MarieH on November 27, 2012, 20:56:13
Whoop! Whoop!!  :D
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Post by: Bill C on November 30, 2012, 01:55:20
Driving, space for 3. Driver caffeine rule.
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Post by: Ross on November 30, 2012, 14:34:07
Can I grab a spot in your car Bill please?
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Post by: Maryanne on November 30, 2012, 17:11:15
Driving, space for 3-4
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Post by: Niall Finch on November 30, 2012, 17:15:50
Not 100% sure I'll be able to do it - will talk to you this evening Niall.
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Post by: MarieH on December 01, 2012, 14:50:16
So I'll be driving as well but I won't be coming back to UCD, I'll be going straight to Cork.
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Post by: Bill C on December 01, 2012, 16:11:03
Anyone who wants a lift text me so I know. Will be out of computer contact for a few hours today. Laptop's at the laptop doctor...
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Post by: MarieH on December 01, 2012, 18:35:18
so what time are we meeting in the morning? Is it at Stackallen for 11am again?
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Post by: Maryanne on December 01, 2012, 22:22:37
Driving, space for 3-4

Still working on that assignment.
I'm going to have to not go to this.
Have to get this assignment and report done.
Hope it's excellent, hate to miss it.
Title: Re: Freestyle Coaching!
Post by: Douchier on December 01, 2012, 22:48:43
Yikes,
I left this a bit late.

I've been sleeping a lot.

9.30 at the boathouse tomorrow.

Me and Bill driving.

Bring warm stuff.
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Post by: Eoghan on December 03, 2012, 16:46:04
really good! cheers for organising it guys! think i may actually stop my long lasting scepticism of playboating