UCD Canoe Club
General => Kayaking => Topic started by: Simon R. on February 28, 2013, 17:39:34
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Beautiful!
Love the video, I'll be competing for the trophy whether there's a boatercross or not ;D
Game face (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gordon_thomson/8489785693/in/set-72157632809916188/)
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Great idea. I'll be there.
Game face (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gordon_thomson/8489785693/in/set-72157632809916188/)
You call that smiling at the judges!
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YES, I was gutted there wasn't enough water last year!
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boater x on the main falls of the dargle... im in?
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Thought that was Jacksons on high water.....
my bad
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boater x on the main falls of the dargle... im in?
im with dave :P
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I'm in!
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Me please! Can I get a fresher and an oldie please?
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If I can get from the airport to Wicklow in time, then I'll be there :)
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I also require a fresher and oldie
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I am also on the lookout for a fresher and an oldie.
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As do I. I'm lovely and make lots of tea
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I claim Matt as an oldie and now only need a fresher!
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you might be pushing the oldie bracket yourself karen!
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Still in college simon, sorry.
Also, how old does that make you feel? :P
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Yo Karen people were getting on to me about being their oldie?
How old does that make YOU feel? ;)
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Dave O'Reilly is on a team as an oldie.
We're all old...
I've been thinking about this, the old "over 25, graduated, with a job and a year of freshers don't know you" qualification is too small a pool nowadays, there aren't enough people who fulfill those conditions who still kayak and turn up around the club.
If we want to be able to say we have oldies we need to redefine what they are to get a new generation of them, or else no one will think they're an oldie and the role will be lost. :'(
Now I'd say an oldie is anyone
- past their 5th/6th year in the club (ie that's the same gap as between a secondary school first year and a 6th year)
- old enough to have memories from the year today's freshers were born (1993 and 1994)
- was in the club more before 5 years ago (2007-08, before any of the freshers, 2nd years, 3rd years or committee joined)
Other signs
...the people who were oldies when you started are married with kids/have sensible careers/cars/other traits of full blown adulthood
...you don't get the club bus anymore (rivertrips/weekends away)
...are shocked by the fact that this year's freshers did their Leaving Cert in 2012
Contributing/detracting factors
...being around the club in an instructing role can accelerate the track to perceived oldiehood (eg Dave O'R)
...being on committee (except as senior treasurer) can mask oldiehood (temporarily) since you're around so much
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Sorry Maryanne only Oldies decide who oldies are! I was made an Oldie by Brendino, in the traditional ceremony, after I got my Degree, I was still in college but was now recognised as an oldie by other oldies. Some people were oldies the moment they joined the club.
Oldies were never a big pool of people and every few years the numbers of Oldies directly involved in the club peak then drop. My particular fresher year had a large number of oldies who've since stopped paddling with the club. For a number of reasons: One of the biggest being emigration. Second on the list is they don't have time to give up an entire day to a club trip and thirdly they took up other sports which aren't so water level related, the number of former UCD oldies on mountain bikes!
On that note, Eoghan I see you as an Oldie, as a former Captain you've pretty much been one since last year.
Med students are always difficult I will consult with my fellow oldies and produce a ruling from the sacred scroll of IJMIU
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while not bothering to read anyones post in any detail above... it appears i've stirred the hornets nest.
I always used the term oldie as someone who has been through fresher and then a year or 2 of the club. I for instance am still in college but am definitely an oldie!
I've never considered that oldie refers to someones age (no insult intended above karen)! else we'd have to coin terms like geriatric for some of the people who are still about.
my suggestion for including some more senior club members as oldies was simply because there are less of us then there are freshers and second/3rd year club members.
This is a fun boaterX and I'll be on 10 teams if people need me. I'd be hopeful that people would join teams with people they don't know or as a suggestion I can generate teams so that everyone might get to know everyone else a bit better for the night of the ball.
Discuss...
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hold on! some of the freshers did their leaving in 2012........good god!
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Sorry Maryanne only Oldies decide who oldies are!
Nah, I think an 18 year old fresher is a better judge of who's old than any oldie! Or else the college age aspect of the club will go out the window.
I mean, we've to remember that an oldie in the club doesn't have to be old in real life, just by the standards of college.
while not bothering to read anyones post in any detail above... it appears i've stirred the hornets nest.
Lol
my suggestion for including some more senior club members as oldies was simply because there are less of us then there are freshers and second/3rd year club members.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at too, to support the amount of 1st and 2nd years we have we need more people to be oldies in general.
This is a fun boaterX and I'll be on 10 teams if people need me. I'd be hopeful that people would join teams with people they don't know or as a suggestion I can generate teams so that everyone might get to know everyone else a bit better for the night of the ball.
Discuss...
I'll be on any team that needs a college person, I'm pretty sure I know all the freshers, but I'm up for being assigned on to a random team, maybe I'll get to meet an exotic oldie!
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hold on! some of the freshers did their leaving in 2012........good god!
Bahaha! Yup!
And not some, nearly all!
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This is a fun boaterX and I'll be on 10 teams if people need me. I'd be hopeful that people would join teams with people they don't know or as a suggestion I can generate teams so that everyone might get to know everyone else a bit better for the night of the ball.
Discuss...
I'll be on any team that needs a college person, I'm pretty sure I know all the freshers, but I'm up for being assigned on to a random team, maybe I'll get to meet an exotic oldie!
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Dibs Simon, Maryanne and victory.... afro.gif
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Oldies always decided who was an Oldie can't go changing the rules just because we've become a rare breed of awesome ^-^
If I was a fresher I'd get onto the ball site on facebook and ask anyone you don't recognise to be your senior paddler <Hint Dave Hannon and Carl Dempsey would be good choices if Tom Bannon or Benny are going also good people to ask, don't know if Dave, Dave or Dave is going but all good choices, Jenny might be around as well if ask her>
In the last boatercross it was fresher(easy to define) 2nd or third year type(also easy to define) and Oldie(obscure just the way we like it!) basically anyone who didn't fit in the first two categories.
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There are oldies and there are SUPER OLDIES!!
We invented the concept of the SUPER OLDIE when we realised that our oldies had their own oldies then we couldnt distinguish which set of oldies were being talked about! This concept was decided and agreed upon in the Secret garden over a tiple or two, a SUPER OLDIE is an oldie that you only ever hear about they are a mysterious crowd that you will not know until you reach the ever coveted mentality of an oldie.
What you need is an inbetween ground, a new title for a special new breed of oldie, the not around so much cos they're busy people but goliy when they come to visit is it a hoot and a half!! These oldies judge the freshers based on the half your age plus 7 rule then sigh as they are are too old then return to drinking some more, fresh meat just isn't what it used to be, are there any local's about they say!! These 'oldies' can be spotted in the 'professional' world often SUITED UP for a day's work. The best way to spot a oldie is to strike up a conversation about the terrible damage that buckfast has on the world, IT IS NOW THAT THE UCDCC OLDIE WILL SHOW THEIR TRUE COLOURS - BLINK AND YOU WILL MISS IT!!!!! they will look wistfully, lovingly into the distance whilst reminiscing aobut the glory days - oh buckfast how i miss you, they will whisper as they return to sipping their gin and tonic!!
A NEW TITLE IS REQUIRED - HAVE AT IT - im a busy lady!!
I think there should be extra points for people who get a 'word yet to be decided' oldie or a super oldie on their boaterX team, just remember that oldies, especially super oldies have whats called a 'disposable income' - you dont need to know what that is just that they can buy you drink with it!!
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I think last time it was more beginner ("fresher" someone with little/no experience, could be second year if they're only starting to get the hang of it now, or if a first year was a paddler before they came to college they could be moved to the middle category), intermediate (someone who could get themselves down a river and maybe help rescue a bit but still could mess up and swim on Jacksons) and solid boater ("oldie" someone who's been paddling a while, rescue, someone who will definitely not be swimming and can probably help the "fresher type" if they mess up on the way).
For example, I would be a huge disadvantage if you had me as your "oldie" despite my oldie status. And Oisin (isnt't it?) would likely be a huge advantage as a "fresher" since he paddled before college (this opinion is purely from the grapevine, you could be a terrible paddler for all I know hahaha).
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I support the Boobs officer emeritus
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Coolio, I am now looking for a fresher and a college type please! Be warned, I do like winning things!
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I also require a fresher and oldie
Coolio, I am now looking for a fresher and a college type please! Be warned, I do like winning things!
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I guess I'll get in line to say I also require a fresher and oldie.
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Yup, me too...
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I came here to gloat cause I'm organised.
Oldie: Mark
College type: Myself
Fresher: Deividas
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Putting myself forward as an oldie so. Some 2 college people attach themselves to me! I'm too lazy to do it myself...
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Putting myself forward as an oldie so. Some 2 college people attach themselves to me! I'm too lazy to do it myself...
I'm guessing that means you'll be in the country, so Go Team?
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Oldie: Nuala (Nuala counts as an oldie???)
College-type: Bill
We need a fresher!
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Oldie: Eoghan
2nd/3rd year: Marie
Fresher: Me
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I hereby attach myself to Matt and reitterate his request for a fresher to attach him/herself to us.
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dave don't go whoring yourself out, You're with me! and briain too provided he's not working :)
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What a can of worms. Being an oldie is a state of mind, it can't be dictated to you. Arguing oldie status, like organising teams this early, is as futile as two oldies arguing over a comb. I'm an oldie, my presence on a team will be bought or sold in cans of Bavaria in the eddie at the start line.
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My price is vodka and funny looking dog!
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as futile as two oldies arguing over a comb.
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Who argues over combs? ???
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as futile as two oldies arguing over a comb.
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Who argues over combs? ???
I think he means that oldies are really old and therefore bald and therefore don't need combs, so arguing over them is pointless.
That or I'm missing out on a world of comb passion.
Arguing oldie status, like organising teams this early, is as futile as two oldies arguing over a comb.
As for organising teams "too early" it's not a bad thing if it means people go out paddling between now and the ball and learn some stuff or meet new people :)
I'm an oldie, my presence on a team will be bought or sold in cans of Bavaria in the eddie at the start line.
But I like your style.
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As do I. I'm lovely and make lots of tea
Bill I'll be looking for many of them to make up for the possibility of my imminent death :P
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thats the spirit Aoife!!
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Team Danger Ducks!
Oldie (??): Nuala
College-type: Bill
Fresher: Aoife
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You K-razy kids have it all wrong - Its not about needing or wanting a fresher and an oldie, its what you do with them when you get them....................................
I shant be partaking in the boaterX - I know simon you wanted to see me throwing some epic moves as I stylishly glide over Jacksons, a donkeyflip, a loop, maybe even a McNasty - but alas it shall not be, my boat's in the shop and I couldn't cheat on susie by paddling something else! I will however stand around (helping some call it) judging people with asho (Senior Treasurer Committee 12/13 - seriously there's a whole committee of 12-13people and you didnt ask me to join - BINT) we will be wearing hats!!!
P.s Simon this is my attempt to tell you that if you need people to help out on the day let me know :)
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thanks I'll need a hand alright...
although if you do get your boat back from the shop before the da it'd be well worth showing these kids your trademark jacksons mcnasty. very difficult move to pull going over a drop like that!
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Cool , I think I have a team.
Ross and David/Zog Mulrooney?
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Ali offering to help someone? good god.... :o ;)
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8) Yo dogs and cats, i haven't been asking but I am looking to join a team or form my own tour de force 8)
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I shall go and watch from the riverbank and laugh.... i may also take some photos, but mostly I'll just laugh... :P
Bill, wanna give your camera so I can take photos? :P
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Helena the last time you were given a camara was at varsities, which resulted in 1000s of off focus pics of penises and nipples >:(
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yea I know, that's why im asking again, to repeat the fun!! :P
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I shall go and watch from the riverbank and laugh.... i may also take some photos, but mostly I'll just laugh... :P
Bill, wanna give your camera so I can take photos? :P
I'm not sure Bill could go through the trauma again
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Like hell Bill is a college type if I'm an oldie. Anyway, I've been completly out of the loop the last while. Who's still looking for team?
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Any spare freshers?
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So Diarmuid said he would be my college person, which leaves no oldie
However as he expects I won't be able to do it on the day that could leave him and an oldie with no fresher :-\
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I'm your oldie!
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Any spare freshers?
Bump
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I'm your oldie!
Well that was easy afro.gif
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Helena the last time you were given a camara was at varsities, which resulted in 1000s of off focus pics of penises and nipples >:(
Please no more
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I didn't take the nipple shots!!!
(And Bill, I will go through those photos for you and delete the many duplicates...)
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Hey Helena! if you plan on taking photos I'll need you for one of the team boaterX challenges....
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Yes Helena you can have my camera. Just be merciful
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What about us Bill! Where's our mercy from the tyranny of a camera toting crazy cork woman (I know the horror of this my mother has a camera at all family events)!
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Erm...I guess I need a team? yeah
Here's a question...am I a fresher, a college type or an oldie?
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Hey Helena! if you plan on taking photos I'll need you for one of the team boaterX challenges....
What exactly does that mean? should i be worried?
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no but everyone else should be.............
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go with whatever a college type for now? your something of an enigma.
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go with whatever a college type for now? your something of an enigma.
Lol...
College type sounds cool, once the committee's over he'll go back to being an oldie.
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Hey guuuyyysss,
I don't have anybody for a team yet...so if anybody would be willing to take me under their wing I would be forever grateful! There was a bit of a discussion whether I'm considered a fresher or a college type...so I don't know myself! But I will go where I'm put! :)
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Hey guuuyyysss,
I don't have anybody for a team yet...so if anybody would be willing to take me under their wing I would be forever grateful! There was a bit of a discussion whether I'm considered a fresher or a college type...so I don't know myself! But I will go where I'm put! :)
I think you'll be a fresher.
You're welcome to be on my team (which until this point is just me).
I was planning on hanging around til the end to make sure no one was left out, but if any more people sign up later I could go on multiple teams, so here goes.
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What's the story with freshers running jacksons in club boats??
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What's the story with freshers running jacksons in club boats??
It'll depend on the water level, which we won't know about til very close to the date, so watch this space :)
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Hey guuuyyysss,
I don't have anybody for a team yet...so if anybody would be willing to take me under their wing I would be forever grateful! There was a bit of a discussion whether I'm considered a fresher or a college type...so I don't know myself! But I will go where I'm put! :)
not a chance you're a fresher mate! you joined last year and had paddled before! ;)
and I see Maryanne encouraged this total disregard for the rules as Simon so clearly laid out...for shame!! :police: ;D
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I see maryanne the shark is already angling herself into top seed....
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What's the story with freshers running jacksons in club boats??
It'll depend on the water level, which we won't know about til very close to the date, so watch this space :)
But if levels are suitable we'll be ok to use them? Saweeeet!!!
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My hole is Joey a fresher...
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Hey guuuyyysss,
I don't have anybody for a team yet...so if anybody would be willing to take me under their wing I would be forever grateful! There was a bit of a discussion whether I'm considered a fresher or a college type...so I don't know myself! But I will go where I'm put! :)
not a chance you're a fresher mate! you joined last year and had paddled before! ;)
and I see Maryanne encouraged this total disregard for the rules as Simon so clearly laid out...for shame!! :police: ;D
Joined last year?
I didn't know that...
Well Joey, look deep in to your heart, which year do you identify with, last year or this year?
And while you're at it: http://forum.ucdcanoeclub.com/index.php/topic,11227.0.html
But I'll leave the call to Simon, of course.
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Is this on the Saturday or the Sunday morning? Not going to the ball but would be around for either morning/afternoon.
So I suppose I need a fresher and college type.
This team of sharks(I mean perfectly legit fresher/college type) your getting together Maryanne sounds interesting.
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saturday morning
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Ah now, I need to firmly point out that Joey was a member last year too
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And I'd like to firmly point out, at the risk of making Joey's head explode, that I already tried and was told to go f.....
I was told no.
Meaning I'm still looking for a fresher. Again. I feel like I've been quoting the book of Niall Finch all week.
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It doesn't matter just use him as a fresher its only second and third place up for grabs anyway as my team is definitely going to win......
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Dibs!
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Is this on the Saturday or the Sunday morning? Not going to the ball but would be around for either morning/afternoon.
So I suppose I need a fresher and college type.
This team of sharks(I mean perfectly legit fresher/college type) your getting together Maryanne sounds interesting.
I'm afraid we've lost the fresher shark to another team that asked for him first, but you're welcome to be an oldie shark.
If there are multiple freshers left over would you be willing to race twice to give two of them a team?
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I'll happily race more than once...
Ah the smack talk has begun already Simon? Who's on this killer team?
I hear Cormac "Can't boof" Roche is in demand these days after kicking childrens asses up and down the country in the last few events...? ;) 8)
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I'll race as many times as needed, just need someone to bring my zimmerframe down to the take out each time.
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cormac is sure to beat any 4-6year olds competing on the day
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Is this on the Saturday or the Sunday morning? Not going to the ball but would be around for either morning/afternoon.
So I suppose I need a fresher and college type.
This team of sharks(I mean perfectly legit fresher/college type) your getting together Maryanne sounds interesting.
I can be your College type? :blank:
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Stephen get your arse to the Ball, Carl and Lorriane and Caprani and his missus are coming, I'll put you on their table :)
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Dammit, how did you know my about my rubber elbows Asho?
I will not have my arm twisted.....well maybe hmmm..
I may sit on this a while, after all, indecision is the key to flexibility.
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Excellent. Bring all your mates. Sent you a PM there with details :)
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It doesn't matter just use him as a fresher...
not a chance you're a fresher mate! you joined last year and had paddled before! ;)
and I see Maryanne encouraged this total disregard for the rules as Simon so clearly laid out...for shame!! :police: ;D
Joined last year?
I didn't know that...
But I'll leave the call to Simon, of course.
And I'd like to firmly point out, at the risk of making Joey's head explode, that I already tried and was told to go f.....
I was told no.
Meaning I'm still looking for a fresher...
Right so the combination of trying to learn how to use this forum (this post still looks messy) and trying to figure out who I am, is making me quite confused!
I was a paid and registered member of the club last year.
I attended 1 river trip during that year.
Just tell me who to go with/who is available and I am a happy camper! :)
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Joey, you can be my second year and since this is the first year peter O sullivan was a member of UCDCC it makes him our fresher...I'm using Amanda logic
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Joey, you can be my second year and since this is the first year peter O sullivan was a member of UCDCC it makes him our fresher...I'm using Amanda logic
While i commend your use of reason, im gonna say.... no.
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Joey we've been over this. You're with me and Matt. We might not meet your standards but dammit you stupid freshers don't have a say in the matter.
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theres way too much thinking going into this. joey just go on cormacs team.....
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Still looking for a team and far to lazy to put one together...so fresher, college type I can be your oldie baby
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I think myself and Garbhan still need a fresher for our team.
You haven't found anyone Garbhan have you?
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Still looking for a fresher !
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I think myself and Garbhan still need a fresher for our team.
You haven't found anyone Garbhan have you?
Nope not yet :-\
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any fresher I see at the ball but not at the boaterX will be harshly judged......
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any fresher I see at the ball but not at the boaterX will be harshly judged......
Only judged?
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Hi guys,
who needs who?
Are we short 2 freshers? Given the lack of freshers
Stephen; Simon Barry is looking for a team so he can go with you guys?
thats one down...
before everyone goes spastic we'll think of a time penalty so that its not unfair on everyone else. its better everyone gets a team
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and since this is the first year peter O sullivan was a member of UCDCC it makes him our fresher.
No reasonable logic makes me a fresher. Going to stick with being an oldie. To aid organising I am not going to leave it to the start eddie join a team. Who wants me ( or should I say how many cans will bring )?
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I'm a fresher, which team needs one?
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I also am looking for a team, my strategy of lurking til the end to prevent anyone left from feeling left out has backfired somewhat and I am teamless.
and since this is the first year peter O sullivan was a member of UCDCC it makes him our fresher.
No reasonable logic makes me a fresher. Going to stick with being an oldie. To aid organising I am not going to leave it to the start eddie join a team. Who wants me ( or should I say how many cans will bring )?
Peter if you join me I'll only be fresherless (no pressure though)
I'm a fresher, which team needs one?
And Stuart if you join me I'll only be oldieless (no pressure)
And if you both join I'll have some company bowing in champagne at the end ;)
(or in the Lynam's carpark getting splashed with cider)
Let me know anyway.
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That sounds cool - a team of Maryanne, Stuart and I.
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I'm fine with that team, also agree with the time penalty, or maybe add in an extra eddy to catch. Like river left at bar stopper?
Just have to come up with a team costume now
Also I think Donogh Burns will be coming along too so he will probably be looking for a team.
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I'm fine with that team, also agree with the time penalty, or maybe add in an extra eddy to catch. Like river left at bar stopper?
Just have to come up with a team costume now
Also I think Donogh Burns will be coming along too so he will probably be looking for a team.
Garbhan swooped in and got Stuart at the pool. Don't know how that will work out.
Looks like there'll have to be a team or two that don't have a fresher, college type and oldie.
It could be funny to have a golden oldies team who get a penalty of one second per year of their age and then see them try to undo that damage by doing tricks.
At the end of the day it's all banter.
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I'm finding it a little hard to follow this so...
if you have a new team please just post it in the team event page.
committee types can you delete the old sign up pages for the team race and what was the time trial.
If you are missing someone please just put a ? instead and we can amalgamate teams as needed. thanks
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I ask Stuart at the pool last night but if he wants to stick with Peter and Maryanne that ok with me and myself and Stephen will stick with Simon Barry. So it's up to Stuart and Simon B.
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I'll decide for you.
Stephen and garbhan you have simon barry
maryanne and peter you have stuart
done
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I'll decide for you.
Stephen and garbhan you have simon barry
maryanne and peter you have stuart
done
Grand so.
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I'll decide for you.
Stephen and garbhan you have simon barry
maryanne and peter you have stuart
done
simon that kind of efficiency cant be good we need to discuss this more think of the pros cons and courtesies!!! evil.gif ;)
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I'll decide for you.
Stephen and garbhan you have simon barry
maryanne and peter you have stuart
done
I'm happy with that