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Committee Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Poohy on November 20, 2015, 12:18:39

Title: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Poohy on November 20, 2015, 12:18:39
So guys, i said i would put up the generall running order and events for varsities so that people can get an idea of whats on and start training for it :)

Friday

Saturday

Sunday


NOTE: There must be AT LEAST one girl and one boy on each team

DATES:
friday the 5th till sunday the 7th of febuary
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2015, 12:31:00
Ugh, they did the long distance on the Sunday last time Castlebar hosted it and it was a terrible idea. Everyone was hungover, and then the prize giving was delayed as they needed to figure out the results of the long distance.

Slalom looks interesting though with 10 on it! Are boats going to be provided at all do you know?   
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Poohy on November 20, 2015, 13:03:28
Boats are provided for slalom! you CANT USE YOUR OWN BOAT!!

Also Long distance is only 1 km
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: DervM on November 20, 2015, 13:42:26
Sooooo 1km sprint?

Also deadly on the slalom. All good things!
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2015, 14:54:19

Also Long distance is only 1 km

That sentence doesn't make any sense, there is an inherent contradiction in it

You can't use your own boat for slalom? If I were to have a lovely slalom boat I couldn't use it then? Odd...
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Diarmuid on November 20, 2015, 15:37:17
Boats are provided for slalom! you CANT USE YOUR OWN BOAT!!

Also Long distance is only 1 km

Oh man, these two things are gonna cause so much hate.

I wonder will they require that everyone uses prijon paddles too...
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2015, 16:34:32
I dunno, are slalomers going to be as annoyed as the polo players were? Especially if its the first time the event has been on in a long time? Still a curious decision though
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Diarmuid on November 20, 2015, 17:00:46
I dunno, are slalomers going to be as annoyed as the polo players were? Especially if its the first time the event has been on in a long time? Still a curious decision though

Probably not as bad. It's also flatwater slalom which will annoy a few more.
Strange decisions all round.
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Poohy on November 20, 2015, 17:13:57
The thing this year is to encourage mass participation all round and make it more beginner friendly
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2015, 17:43:44
Haha, and not organiser friendly?
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: kmck on November 20, 2015, 18:35:51
Definitely not organiser friendly, if I'm around you can offer my services as scribe rescue etc to gmit
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 21, 2015, 13:51:06
The point of the slalom is to encourage beginners, WW team can't be on the slalom team, and the boats is to ensure an even playing field 😜

LD is only 1km for GP so as not to scare freshers off (supposedly a minor issue for loads of colleges)
It's 2.5 and 5 for other categories :)
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: DervM on November 23, 2015, 08:42:16
I think the forum records still have the slalom debate from the last time UCD made the exact same rules.
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Diarmuid on November 23, 2015, 09:58:46
Yeah I remember reading some of it Derv. Some unhappy campers
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 23, 2015, 10:30:26
Yeah, I remember that... Everyone there this weekend seemed happy with it, I think it's because (apart from the fog) everyone saw the benefit of the boaterX last year as a mass participation event...
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Steven Mul on November 23, 2015, 11:43:22
Why no boater-X this year so?
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 23, 2015, 12:22:14
No suitable location...
Slalom is running the same time as polo, locations are a few minutes walk away and timetabled to allow polo players do slalom...it means smaller uni's can field enough people
(Some clubs had issues with polo players doing slalom as any good polo player will have no issue with a flat water course, but it was decided it's more beneficial for everyone to have a WW/Slalom ban rather than a Polo/Slalom ban
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Steven Mul on November 23, 2015, 12:57:09
Ah nice one, makes sense! What are the locations for the WW and polo?
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: DervM on November 23, 2015, 13:04:27
Oh I'm in favour! I just meant to head off some of the unhelpful comments - just reference 2009 or whenever  :P
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 23, 2015, 15:25:21
Oh I'm in favour! I just meant to head off some of the unhelpful comments - just reference 2009 or whenever  :P

We'll let GMIT know 😜

Slalom - Lough Lanna lake (back of the accommodation)
Polo - Castlebar swimming pool (the only 'ugh' part of the competition...)
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Steven Mul on November 23, 2015, 16:45:26

Slalom - Lough Lanna lake (back of the accommodation)
Polo - Castlebar swimming pool (the only 'ugh' part of the competition...)

...and WW?
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 23, 2015, 18:07:22
Sorry 🙈

Five steps if all is nice

A local, technical run is levels are too high

Last year's course if levels are too low and they need a release 👍
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Zog on November 23, 2015, 18:19:19
Also with regard to running trials...any set date? I just know that I'll be gone the first weekend of term if that's the proposed date..
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Diarmuid on November 23, 2015, 18:33:27
Polo - Castlebar swimming pool (the only 'ugh' part of the competition...)

I don't understand the "ugh" about polo in a swimming pool? It will mean it's not outdoors at the start of february in a shallow basin thing.

Surely slalom in plastic boats only on a lake / LD GP being only 1km (and on Sunday) is more ugh? Not that it's a bad thing that they're trying to encourage participation (it's good), I just don't think that hobbling particular events are necessarily a good way to go about it? I guess they're trying to allow for the maximum range of skill and the least amount of hellish organising by catering to the lowest common denominater. The ban on people bringing their own boats still doesn't make sense in that context though? :D

Slalom is running the same time as polo, locations are a few minutes walk away and timetabled to allow polo players do slalom...it means smaller uni's can field enough people
As far as I remember, the walk from the pool to the lake is like 15-20 mins each way, so you guys would probably want to plan to be driving between them (about a 5 min drive I think) :)
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2015, 19:34:53

Also with regard to running trials...any set date? I just know that I'll be gone the first weekend of term if that's the proposed date..

UL did theirs last weekend I'm led to believe, they are very enthusiastic
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Poohy on November 23, 2015, 19:48:48
yeah they did!

WW is the effey if there is too much rain and then the Boluisce if there is no rain.

Polo in a pool is class! apart from the fact that the pitch will be tiny.

With regards to WW trials, we are having a meeting tomorrow and we can discuss timing then, but i reckon it will be the weekend before college or else it will be the first weekend back.
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: kmck on November 23, 2015, 20:28:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhYXMAk9eA8 it's the only choice that makes sense
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 23, 2015, 20:33:31
Polo - Castlebar swimming pool (the only 'ugh' part of the competition...)

I don't understand the "ugh" about polo in a swimming pool? It will mean it's not outdoors at the start of february in a shallow basin thing.


I meant that as in 'it's the ONLY ugh' as in its not a bad ugh, just the only one :P  It'll be only a 25x10m pool which can be tight with 5v5 teams :P Ailbhe will tell you I was delira with the fact it's indoors :P


we drove it, so can't say for certain but they said ~5 minutes...
Can't take cars to polo, the carpark is being used for a Varsities Festival! (think rodeo bulls, etc. :D )

Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Diarmuid on November 23, 2015, 23:44:38
I meant that as in 'it's the ONLY ugh' as in its not a bad ugh, just the only one :P  It'll be only a 25x10m pool which can be tight with 5v5 teams :P Ailbhe will tell you I was delira with the fact it's indoors :P

They should really play 4v4, 5v5 would be pretty crowded, you're right.

we drove it, so can't say for certain but they said ~5 minutes...
Can't take cars to polo, the carpark is being used for a Varsities Festival! (think rodeo bulls, etc. :D )

I'm just going on memory so I could be wrong. You could prob check it on Google Maps or something.
Jaysus, they're going all out to impress! :D
Title: Re: Intervarsities - Event guide
Post by: Aoife S on November 24, 2015, 09:47:27
Yep! Ireland's first ever 'Leave No Trace Festival'!  afro.gif