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General => Kayaking => Topic started by: caz on August 21, 2007, 00:58:22

Title: how not to rescue
Post by: caz on August 21, 2007, 00:58:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE5N52V3IRk&NR
Also sometimes its better not to throw away your paddles when youre going down a big waterfall. You might need them when your gettin your arse handed to ya!

Also for those learning to roll:

http://www.kayakpaddling.net - a nice animated tutorial about rolling.

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: kmck on August 21, 2007, 01:42:43

This was disscussed on playak.com and other places it does not make for pleasant viewing be warned ahead of time. Yes throwing away the paddles was dumb but the hole itself was the danger. Not having paddles made a dangerous situation nearly fatal. In the end all the rescue in the world can only deal with the known danger it is the unkown one that will cause the clusterfuck.

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: kjt on August 21, 2007, 09:11:02

Quote from: caz on August 21, 2007, 00:58:22

Also for those learning to roll:

http://www.kayakpaddling.net - a nice animated tutorial about rolling.

Sexy website!!!

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: caz on August 21, 2007, 13:02:16

i know kyle  ;D

so do you reckon he just shouldn't have run it at all?

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: kmck on August 21, 2007, 13:10:04

From what I know from the discussion they had run it before then set up the camera to make a film and the guy did his move throwing away his paddles half way down. Yes you'd run the drop but would try to either boof or run the edge of the drop.

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: kjt on August 21, 2007, 13:42:49

It looks like a bitch if you got stuck in it.
How easily would you get out of it if you scrunched into a ball?

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: Jim on August 21, 2007, 17:20:45

This is a good learning video - once you get past watching it with horror, try watching it from a point-of-view of seeing what they did wrong (you can make a long list).

Then try figuring out how you would go about the rescue.

Then try figuring out how you organise your approach to this drop to prevent this scenario developing.

This is one of the drops in the Triple Drop section of the Travo River in Corsica. It's one of those well-known hazards that's fine if you do it right. We were there a number of years back and had no problems because we didn't mess about. One of the group behind us, however, took a beating like this guy.

The key lesson is this: never paddle with Germans in Topos, especially if they are wearing full-face helmets and elbow pads. Anyone paddling with 1980s gear probably has the skills to match.

Jim.

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: Mr C on August 22, 2007, 17:09:17

Jeez I don't know about that rule Jim. There's a lot of super dudes in BC and France for that matter that had me doubled over in stiches at their gear. And here's the but: but they're usually super paddlers. Go figure?!  ;D

Title: Re: how not to rescue
Post by: Jim on August 22, 2007, 17:31:15

That's because you live in a strange parallel universe, Colin.

My prejudice against Spud-paddling, full-face helmet guys is one day on the Dargle when we got tangled up with these two particular dudes. It took me a while to figure why one of them was wearing knee-pads...

They still top my list of 'People with whom I will never paddle again.'

Jim.